David continued, "And just as she took the stage, he said 'Ms. Norma you should be ashamed of yourself. How dare you desecrate the blood of innocent unborn babies by selling a book.' And now most people thought, you angry, mean, arrogant, bigoted jerk. Well Norma tells her story later in another book called Won by Love, that it was at that moment that the Lord brought incredible conviction to her."
"Weeks later, Dad's in his office," David explained. "He sees Norma go out to the bench, out there in the parking lot, smoking a cigarette. Dad used to be chain smoker. So, he decides I'm going out to say something to Ms. Norma."
Jason added, "He saw that she was hurt (by his words) and he went and sat next to her and he said Ms. Norma, Ms. Norma, where do we go from here. I'm so sorry that my words hurt you. But I felt that God wanted you to get that message. And she's like, 'I don't really know where we go from here.' And it was about six months later that she gave her heart to Jesus Christ. Through the witness of my dad."
"He had her over to our house for dinner with her lesbian partner Connie. She gave her heart to Jesus. Ms. Connie gave her heart to the Lord. That just shows you what boldness and brokenness together can do. And my dad became a bridge between heaven and earth for Ms. Norma."
They also speak of a time of ministry with an angry woman on a recent flight.
"I'm sitting on the aisle," said David. "We had a seat in between us. This lady walks up, and I had my Bible open reading it and she says, 'I'm sitting between you,' so I jump up and help her to her seat and then she just looks over and says, 'I am a flaming liberal feminist and believe nothing like you.'"
He continued, "Many times your knee-jerk reaction is to kind of prove a point. But the Lord really spoke to me and said, 'You need to win a person.' The Holy Spirit gave me the ability to slow myself down a little bit and just begin to ask questions."
"About an hour into it, we're 30,000 feet up and she starts telling me all about her family and her son and was struggling with depression. Her daughter's anxious. And she herself was really under a burden and I just felt the Lord wanted me to read Psalm 139. So, I said, I asked her permission, would you mind if I read a passage of scripture to you. She said of course. So, I opened my Bible and I began reading about how God saw our unformed substance. We are fearfully and wonderfully made. And I began reading that and all of a sudden, her chin starts quivering and just tears just start flowing down her cheeks. I'm watching the word of God minister to her heart here."
He continued, "She stopped me and said, 'I can't believe I'm telling you this but my entire adult life I've had a recurring dream. Because I was adopted at birth. And in my dream, I'm in an incubator looking up at the doctors and nurses saying, 'Don't worry about me, I'll fend for myself.' She got right to the root of her anger and that feminism. Right to the root without me even saying a word."
"So, what I recognized that day was when we are motivated by love, we can be a bridge. We need to be quiet. Let the Holy Spirit begin to work in our hearts and then start asking questions and then boom, doors begin to open. Because in Matthew 16 (it says), 'I'll give you keys to the kingdom. What you bind on earth will be bound in heaven and what you lose on earth will be loosed in heaven.' And I can use a battering ram to prove my point, or I can just take a key and open that heart."
"It's that staying submitted," said Jason. "It's recognizing that maybe I should think for three seconds before I respond to this person. And when you do that you're submitted to the Holy Spirit. And the Holy Spirit may have you do something that's completely out of the ordinary."
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